By Sean Burns and Andrew Dignan
Andrew Dignan: Hey Sean, is there anything more depressing than staring at Thanksgiving leftovers sitting in the fridge for a second week? Everyone loves turkey sandwiches the next day, but after half a dozen different variations of bird and stuffing (I feel like Bubba coming up with uses for shrimp) I’m seriously starting to resent that gutted-out carcass wrapped up in aluminum foil.
Incidentally, leftovers is the theme of this week’s column, as there isn't a single new entry in theaters worth watching. It’s one of the worst kept secrets around that the first weekend in December is historically an undernourished stretch on exhibitors’ schedules, giving late August a run for its money as most barren wasteland on the calendar. Rather than endure Catherine Hardwicke’s The Nativity Story (can’t wait for the scene where Jesus wants to get a tongue stud and then gets into a fight with Mary over it) I thought we’d talk about a few films that have been out for a little while that we haven't covered yet.
One such film is Emilio Estevez’s Bobby, which may be of special interest to House readers after a recently-linked review of the film from Jonathan Rosenbaum where the film was not only praised but used as damning counterpoint to Altman’s Nashville, which just goes to show that once all of your capacities as a film critic have left you, you can still pack ‘em in by just being a contrarian. I’ll defer any Altman defending to you, but I’m frankly baffled how anyone could seriously consider Bobby anything but an overly earnest bit of hero worship buried amidst an especially pedestrian, multi-narrative melodrama. Basically what one can take away from the film is the rather jejune sentiment that everything and everyone in the world would be better off if Robert Kennedy wasn’t assassinated on June 4th, 1968 and that Estevez’s famous friends just aren’t working enough.
Assembling the best cast of 1997, Bobby follows two dozen employees and guests of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles on that fateful day as they engage in an inter-connecting soap opera of various affairs, fistfights, far-out LSD freak-outs (Estevez should have his DGA card rescinded for this particular bit of awfulness) and of course plenty of moments of quiet-reflection about how “Bobby’s gonna change this country for the better.” This involves lots of staring pensively at the upper-right-hand corner of the frame while Mark Isham’s strings work-overtime and the viewer mentally inserts a “For Your Consideration” scroll across the bottom of the screen.
I could mention how repeated comparisons to The Love Boat are apt (the scenes between Helen Hunt and Martin Sheen are so painfully squishy you’d swear Emilio secretly hates his old man) and how Estevez’s wide-eyed sincerity and point-blank didacticism leads me to believe everything he learned about the era was from Stanley Kramer films. But what ultimately irks me the most is how the film leans upon the real life specter of Kennedy and the impending doom that will find him in the Ambassador kitchen to lend relevance to what amounts to a bunch of kids playing dress up. Like Paul Haggis’ Crash, Bobby offers up the least amount of information possible about these fictional characters to justify the machinations that leads them toward a senselessly violent conclusion--often by regurgitating exactly what’s on their mind in overly-emotive fashion, as though they’ve been instructed that they’ll each only be getting one close-up, so they damn well better make the most of it.
I can appreciate Estevez’s desire for a change of direction in this country’s political climate, and by holding up RFK as a well-spoken, introspective counterpoint to our current administration he’s being more proactive than most (although you haven’t felt real douche chills till you’ve heard an audience filled with Hollywood liberals breakout in repeated, spontaneous applause at a film for simply sharing its political beliefs). But the film is so terminally misguided in its methods, so school-play square in its execution, that he creates an environment where the idea of serious reflection is not only impossible, it’s downright laughable. A week ago I more or less let Darren Aronofsky’s equally earnest yet flawed The Fountain off the hook; is this film significantly worse or have I simply run out of holiday charity?
Sean Burns: Dude, it’s so much worse… and then some. The Rosenbaum riff you cited is hysterical on many fronts, first of all because it reveals, once again, that nothing gets J. Ro rolling like an opportunity to shovel dung onto a fresh corpse – I still recall hurling his book Movie Wars across my room after reading pages and pages of cheap shots at the recently departed Gene Siskel, simply because the still-warm dead guy didn’t frequent film festivals and often went to basketball games instead. (I guess critics are supposed to live monastic lives, devoid of outside interests. So if you want to be taken seriously after you’re dead, Andrew, you’d best not be taking a break from this piece to watch our Pats take on the Lions.) But his review is even funnier because it proves that, particularly in the case of Bobby, it doesn’t often matter how laughable or incompetent a movie might really be… as long as you tickle the right parts of your target audience’s ideological nether regions, even un film de Estevez will be taken seriously. I’m frankly baffled as how this flatly staged, horribly acted, made-for-cable-looking wank even made it into cinemas, besides the obvious explanation that Harvey Weinstein desperately needs an Oscar movie and if he has to move mountains and create one out of thin air, well… that’s what makes him Harvey Weinstein.
I’m 31 years old (at least for another month), so I’ve spent most of my life absorbing a popular culture overseen by a bunch of aging boomers who keep insisting that subsequent generations are inconsequential because “the sixties was when it all really mattered, man.” I’ve always had trouble with the mass-marketed, idealistic rose-tinted view of this era, because I came of age in what’s probably the tail-end of that time when a lot of fathers were profoundly scarred by the war in Vietnam, and thus I’ve spent way too many afternoons listening to too many Dads tell too many similar stories in which they got home safe only to be spat upon, fucked with, and called “baby-killers” by a bunch of rich college students trying on their first handlebar mustache. As such, I have an exceedingly low tolerance for flower-power pieties.
But what’s fascinating to me about Bobby is that this isn’t just another boomer force-feed. It’s such a weird ersatz nostalgia trip because Estevez, who was six when these events took place, seems not to be working not to recreate the era itself, but to enshrine the most banal, facile and reductive representations that we’ve been bombarded with ever since. (I love how the only two movies that exist in Bobby’s 1968 are The Graduate and Bonnie and Clyde.) It’s tacky and phony, roughly akin to what would happen if I set out to make a decade-defining movie about the 1950’s based exclusively upon what I’d gleaned from American Graffiti and Happy Days.
I’m also not sure what the boring marital spats of a bunch of bit players who used to be famous for a little while back in the 1980’s and early 90’s have to do with the life and times of Bobby Kennedy. (I suspect nothing.) It’s all so fake and so forced, and Estevez hasn’t the slightest interest in actual history. (If I’m not mistaken, the marriage exemption ended in 1965, thus negating Elijah Wood and Lindsey Lohan’s storyline.) And is there anything more horribly dishonest than giving several of your main characters grueling and protracted death scenes in the Ambassador’s kitchen, only to casually announce ten minutes later via an onscreen title card that everybody, sans RFK, survived the shooting? This is just exploitative garbage.
I’ll stick with Robert Altman, thank you very much. Jonathan Rosenbaum can keep the fine auteur Emilio Estevez all to himself. What else is in the news, Robin?
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AD: A thought I’ve been giving a fair amount of thought to lately is the idea of a “critical blindspot.” These are films or artists that never quite resonate with you in any substantial way, no matter how much you appreciate the intent or execution, and no matter how many passionate and knowledgeable people have lent their voices to the discussion and defense of said artistry. I’d never be so arrogant to toss around the expression “overrated” -- and this is a topic probably better suited for this site's 5 for the Day feature -- but there’s no denying that some sacred cows leave you cold. I guess that’s a really roundabout way of saying I still don’t “get” Almodóvar. His latest, Volver, falls into the same analytical phantom zone where I cannot consciously object to anything presented in the film (most especially Penelope Cruz’s hot-blooded performance). Considering how many mutually-exclusive mini-genres the film jumps between, Almodovar handles the tonal shifts with minimal transitional jar. The whole film feels like an affectionate hug without judgment or prejudice--something made all the more remarkable as it presents us with a cast of murderers, liars, prostitutes and thieves.
I’m appreciative of the way the film cleverly tweaks the conventions of the “ghost film,” playing the “spectral” Carmen Maura and her interactions with the women of the film with such unblinking candor that when the (in hindsight obvious) mechanics behind the phenomenon are finally revealed, I was stunned at how gobsmacked I felt. The film tenderly understands the obvious and subtle ways in which the dead continue to speak to us; haunting us (literally, or in this film's case, figuratively) while inspiring the living in their day-to-day existence. I also must commend Mr. Almodóvar for bringing out the earthy beauty of Ms. Cruz, doing more for a push-up bra and Jersey hair than anyone since Drea De Matteo.
And yet… The film began to dissipate like cotton candy on my tongue just about the second sunlight hit my eyes exiting the theatre. I can’t think of a more frustrating (albeit familiar) phenomenon. Even now, mere hours after seeing Volver, I’m struggling to take anything away from Volver beyond “this film really cares for its women characters” which is pretty much what I take away from every Almodóvar film. I guess my question is then, can a movie check off every box in your head and still underwhelm by design? Is a shrug an acceptable response to a film, and for that matter a filmmaker, widely hailed by both the mainstream press and the online community as a masterpiece? (For a look at the film that doesn’t amount to a 500-word variation on “it was pretty good, I guess” might I recommend Ryland Walker Knight’s recent article.) All I know is, I feel like a blind man at an orgy. The film’s charms aren’t lost on me, they’re just mostly inconsequential. You’ve had more time to process Volver than I have; please tell me what I’m missing so I can get on this damn bandwagon already.
SB: I think I know exactly what you’re getting at here. It’s not that I dislike Almodovar at all, in fact, I’ve enjoyed most of the pictures that I’ve seen quite a bit. But I also don’t find myself thinking about his movies all that often. I admire his use of color, his scope compositions, and let’s face it – this guy just plain loves tits. But it’s funny you should point out the fact that I’ve had more time to process the movie, because even though I saw Volver less than one month ago, I just found myself forced to dig out and re-read my own review, to refresh my memory as to what it was actually about. I fondly recall leaving the theater with a warm and generous feeling, but that, plus all those loving, lingering shots of Cruz’ wonderfully padded backside were all that lodged in my brain. (I wonder why.)
So yeah, anything that evaporates so quickly provides pretty much the definition of slight, which I guess then makes it doubly strange when remembering that Volver happens to be stuffed silly with murder, incest and terminal illness. There is something fascinating about the way Almodovar is able breeze through some seriously objectionable content without the audience ever feeling so much as a speed bump. He’s definitely got a unique little low-key melodrama thing going these days, sort of a Douglas Sirk-by-way-of-Telenovelas M.O. that seems to have mellowed and sweetened with age.
But I think you’ve hit upon a nifty piece of critical heresy with this “blindspot theory,” as I know too well that we in this absolutist game are never, ever supposed to admit that there might be some finely crafted, perfectly good thing out there that’s “just not our bag.” (It probably holds true for many aspects of life, as I’m now thinking about those strange and unfortunate episodes every few months when I decide to “act more adult” by trying to drink wine instead of beer, and forcing myself to like jazz.) Of course, it could also be that you and I are still just a couple of stunted little boys who like to watch shit blow up, which I believe brings us to our next movie…
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Andrew Dignan: Yes. I feel infinitely more qualified to kick around Tony Scott’s latest exercise in ADHD, Déjà Vu, the sort of vaguely-insulting action film I’d probably get stuck taking my dad to over the holidays if the new James Bond film wasn’t playing 3-screens down the hall. Skirting the line between loud dumb fun and the most offensive film of the year, Déjà Vu does to the helicopter zoom-in and re-focus what The Shining did to the steadicam. Scott, whose filmmaking by way of speed-freak always struck me as a concerted effort on his part to distance himself from big brother Ridley’s hermetically-sealed compositions, seems to be watering down the espresso somewhat since the seizure-inducing Domino, but I continue to be amazed at an ethos that employs six shots to cover a line of dialogue when one would do just fine.
Set amidst a still recovering New Orleans, Déjà Vu finds Denzel Washington as a rogue ATF agent investigating a deadly ferry bombing by a Right-Wing nut job played by Jim Caviezel in a very un-Jesus-like performance (I wonder if he got any pointers from Mel) that killed 500-people and left in its wake a beautiful victim (Paula Patton) who just might be the key to unraveling the mystery.
Working with one of Jerry Bruckheimer’s patented geek squads lead by Adam Goldberg (who spouts out a steady stream of pop culture references sure to be dated by the time you finish reading this), Washington uses super-duper fancy satellite technology from the plot-device research facility to observe Patton’s character 4-days in the past, slowly beginning to fall in love with the flickering images of a dead woman as he watches with sickening realization that with each passing moment he’s drawing closer to watching this woman die.
Even with all the look the other way reasoning required to get there, that’s a pretty cool premise right? This certainly isn’t the first film to play with the idea of a man falling in love with the idea of a dead woman (The Constant Gardner is a recent example of the gimmick being especially effective), but watching Denzel as he’s drawn in deeper and deeper into a life that he knows will be cut short lends a sort of tragic inevitability to what’s otherwise a pretty standard shoot-em up. Sometimes being a movie star means finding the heart in staring at a computer monitor, and as though he were starring in a flashier version of The Conversation, Washington’s obsession is contagious.
But faster than you can say “Timecop” the film is busting apart its own flimsy sense of logic, sending Denzel back in time to save the girl and the ferry, get the bad guy and ride off into the sunset. The entire third act of the film feels like a note from a fidgety studio exec along the lines of “wouldn’t it be nicer if no one had to die?” resulting in some truly-eye rolling techno-geek exposition just to make sure the pretty lady lives. Oh yeah, and if you’ve got time to save all the people on the boat, well that’s good too.
If the lives of hundreds of men, women and children feels like something of an afterthought next to that of a potential love interest, don’t worry, they’re in good company. That’s pretty much how the film feels about integrating its pseudo-science into a narrative chock full of car chases and photo-realistic explosions (what a lovely side-effect of 9/11, no?) while exploiting the still open wounds of Katrina. (For more on this, see Dan Jardine's review.) Déjà Vu steps right over the time travel paradox of Twelve Monkeys and dances around the questions of pre-determination posed by Minority Report. Ultimately it’s more interested in high-concept thrills and “gotcha” twists than in exploring the pesky ethical questions that were the focus of those previous films. If you’re not going to use the genre correctly, don’t use it at all.
SB: At the risk of being dragged behind the woodshed by Dan Jardine, I don’t think this is quite such a terrible film… at least not for the first 90 minutes or so. After the stroboscopic spectacles of Man on Fire and Domino, I feared I would never again see a Tony Scott film that wasn’t cut like one of those “blipverts” that made people’s brains explode on the old Max Headroom TV series. Déjà Vu is actually pretty kinetically restrained, at last as far as the Scott brothers go. And you’ve got to say something for a movie that manages to be visually interesting even though 60% of the running time is spent watching other characters watch the movie you’re watching.
Too bad about that script, though. Penned by Bill Marsilii and Pirates of the Carribbean perpetrator Terry Rossio, Déjà Vu spends far too much time over-explaining the arbitrary, usually plot-driven restrictions of that central time-machine device. Don’t screenwriters understand that the less time you spend telling us how something works, the less time we have to pick holes in your goofy logic? They even give themselves a great, easy out, when Goldberg says: “We were trying to do something else and this happened. So we don’t know how it works.” In any other movie, that should have been more than enough.
It did ultimately lose me when we veered into Timecop territory. Is it just me, or was there a pronounced lack of urgency on the hero’s part when it came to stopping the bomb? He seemed entirely too relaxed when reminding his new not-dead-yet girlfriend: “Don’t forget, we’ve got to get to the dock by nine if we’re going to save those people’s lives.” I half-expected them to stop for coffee and donuts along the way.
I’ve learned that this isn’t the right room in which to try to sticking up for Tony Scott, but after being so disappointed in his last couple pictures, I was happy to see with Déjà Vu that (in addition to holding shots for almost three full seconds at a time) he remembered how to hang back and let his actors have some fun. More so than any other director on Jerry Bruckheimer’s hack assembly line, Scott seems to encourage his casts to add their own hammy little idiosyncrasies – think of those nifty, scene-stealing performances in True Romance, The Last Boy Scout, or even Enemy of the State. I was intrigued here not just by Val Kilmer’s alarming weight gain, but also the amusing bits of business he kept inventing to do with his eyeglasses during all the exposition. Ditto for Goldberg’s obvious ad-libs. And really, is there anyone as effortlessly charming as Denzel Washington? There’s not even a character here for him to play, and he still comes at the role with movie-star charisma to burn. I’d happily watch him in anything, even a stupid little time-waster like this one.
Tuesday, December 05, 2006
Navel Gazing with Burns and Dignan: Bobby, Volver and Deja Vu
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All of the things you mention--all of the actors' various charms, Scott's (relatively) restrained cinematic kineticism, muted tones and undercurrent of melancholia--are minor distractions, intended to throw you off the sent. Scott's appropriation of the imagery of terror is grotesque, as is his equivocation on the issue of homeland security and the egregious assault on individual liberties available through the sorta surveillance techniques championed by this film.
In other words, don't be fooled by surface gloss, Scott remains a wanker.
That should read, "throw you off the SCENT." heh.
I, too, was surprised at how the hour I saw of DEJA VU was really watchable. Most of the credit should go to Denzel but some could be given to lil'Scott: I tried watching some of MAN ON FIRE in another theatre I worked in and after a few minutes had to leave cuz I was getting dizzy; with DEJA VU I was able to enjoy all the "quirky-cute" performances surrounding Denzel's smoldering charm. (What's weird to me is why is Denzel such good buddies with those Scott Bros?) But aside from my fascination with this new no-neck Kilmer (so fat he's cool again) and love of Denzel, this is a pretty ugly picture, from what little I saw. After causing a five car pile up, Denzel keeps driving, talking to the hacks back in the office dealy and then at the end of his spiel says, "Oh yeah, send some ambulances to the bridge." And the caption under gun-toting Caviezel on Walter Chaw's review said it best: "Nobody fucks with the Jesus." I left right after they captured him and he had that weird confession scene. He, too, is quite a dedicated performer but with him it's just odd and off-putting; I simply cannot trust him anymore. I still love THIN RED LINE but his presence is phantasmal and ethereal so I'm more responding to how Sean Penn (and others) respond to him, not really his altruistic (non-)performance.
As for VOLVER: It's great. I understand if you don't connect with it but I think it's easily one of the best movies I've seen this year.
And BOBBY: well, I dunno...maybe I'll have a real opinion on it someday but as it stands right now I'm sure I'd be disappointed at spending my two hours with it.
(PS, thanks for the plug)
Sorry to keep this going, but I don't agree with Dan that Deja Vu's details are 'minor distractions intended to throw you off the scent' because I don't believe Tony Scott thinks of them in this way, if directorial intention matters at all in these kind of discussions (and I know that's debatable). Scott is intending to make a fun, twisty action movie; the fact that it's politically objectionable is a minor afterthought in his universe, not something he foregrounded in the design of the movie. If I thought Scott was trying to send any deliberate 'statements' to his audience, along the lines of a Michael Moore or Shyamalan or Estevez (or Scott's own Man on Fire) but as it is I feel that to pick on Scott's work in this movie is to unfairly single the man out when he's doing the same thing almost every big-budget action movie director is guilty of. I'm thinking of the carelessly high body counts of Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, et al. Plus those 'minor distractions', Denzel's charisma, the supporting players' unique bits of personality, in any other movie would be praised for their charm and individuality.
please insert "I would agree with the objections" after the parenthetical mention of Man on Fire, sorry.
I am loath to go for the obvious, but is there a straight-guy block when it comes to Almodóvar? Is he one of those "you don't have to be gay to love him, but it helps" artists? Discuss.
I'm straight and I love Pedro. He's probably one of my favorite working directors. And the news that he'll reteam with Penelope is great! Sounds like a riff on EYES WITHOUT A FACE thrown together with SPIT ON MY GRAVE. Should be good...
I could care less what Scott's conscious intentions are in any of his films. I'm responding to what I see up there on screen, and his film glosses over some pretty damned objectionable political content in pursuit of a 'heartfelt' action pic. While it ain't as deeply disturbed as Man on Fire, that ain't no reason (as I argue in my review) to give him a pass.
And I'm straight, and I love most of Pedro's films as well. Of course, since I am one sick fuck, the Pedro I love the most is Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down.
RE Pedro: It's not as simple as a gay vs. straight thing, as support for his films is pretty far reaching within the film world, but his recent films often work as melodramas or "women's films" which isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. I would add that I wasn't a huge fan of both The Hours and Far From Heaven but that really doesn't do anything to dispel the initial question of "can straight guys get it?"
It's funny this is coming up though as a couple days ago I was talking with a female friend of mine and was rehashing my indifference towards Volver and Almodovar at large and she was chewing my ear off about how warm and compassionate and provocative his films are and how he's one of the most important filmmakers in the world and how I was, more or less a cinematic idiot for not getting it. Anyway the conversation continues on and we get onto the subject of The Departed when she informs me she hasn't seen it because she doesn't like Scorsese. Ah, the battle of the sexes wages on.
Dan, I merely think your outrage at Deja Vu is out of proportion to its actual sins; 'glossing over' objectionable content is relatively minor, in my book, and there are much worse movies currently playing in theaters.
I'm glad somebody else said it, but yeah, I'm one of those who has seen several Almodovar movies (particularly Talk to Her, All About My Mother, Bad Education) and had an abstract respect for what was on screen without really feeling deeply emotionally involved. I had a better time with Live Flesh and Volver, but I still wouldn't use the word 'masterpiece' to describe either one. But I think the simple notion that there are some things that certain people respond more to than others is completely accurate. I wouldn't expect everyone out there to love David Cronenberg or Death Bed: The Bed That Eats as much as I do.
hi andrew... as regards volver and almodovar i completely share your views (i wrote about it here)...
films are after all a question of taste... it's like going to a good restaurant... choosing fish does not imply a dislike of/cook's incompetence at cooking meat or pasta...
Regarding outrage out of proportion to actual sins regarding Tony Scott, this brings to mind an issue that has occasionally popped into my mind back when Man Of Fire first started getting, well, pretty much everyone who writes about these sorts of things, rip roaring angry over it's political content.
This doesn't apply to the torture aspects of said film, but the way a number of critics got insulted on behalf of Mexico City and Mexico itself. My one friend who is actually from Mexico City saw the film, and said, and I'm paraphrasing from memory, that Man Of Fire was the most accurate depiction of Mexico City that he has ever seen on film.
Now, I would never say he speaks for all residents, past and present, of Mexico City. I'm sure some people on here have annecdotes of their own that counter this one. It's also the sort of defense one could always draw up for objectionable content of any sort, political or otherwise. So, in a sense, it's meaningless. But, I've run into these sort disconnects in regards to film readings, especially when politics of one stripe or another comes into play, before, and I wonder if it does cause responses views like "legitimately evil" (i know i saw that somewhere, but I can't find the quote now) less accurate. Granted, there's enough content in Man Of Fire that anyone could find evil in a random five minutes of it, but has anyone else experienced what I think I'm getting at before? Cheers.
B&D,
(did I just say B&D? Would that make a Sean and Matt column S&M?)
Bobby felt like one of those Irwin Allen disaster movies my aunt used to take me to see in the early 70's. It was on par with what I expected from the writer-director of Wisdom. Why do movies like this have to constantly make my moral decisions for me?
Mr. Dignan, your line "assembling the best cast of 1997" made me laugh out loud. Unfortunately, I was on the phone with a client. "Why are you laughing?" he screamed at me. "This is a SERIOUS PROBLEM with your software!" Damn you, Dignan!
I'm a big fan of Almodovar from way back in the sicko days of Matador and La Ley De Deseo. Volver did not stick with me the way Talk to Her did, but it made me do something no prior Almodovar movie did: It made me want to call my mother.
Me: Mom, would you come back from beyond the grave to tell me something important?
Mom: Hell no! I'd probably get stuck here like Candyman. You must be out your damn mind, boy.
A straight man's love of women has a sexual aspect that clouds the judgement and blocks the pure worshipful adoration a gay man can bestow on them. It's kind of like looking at your favorite football or hockey player; you see the beauty in his technique, not his physique, so you can have a worshipful tie that's not physical. "I wish I could throw like that guy..."
Almodovar doesn't love tits: he WORSHIPS tits. There's a difference, and I think that's the straight-gay dynamic of emotional distance at play in Almodovar's films.
SB: There is something fascinating about the way Almodovar is able breeze through some seriously objectionable content without the audience ever feeling so much as a speed bump.
That's what I love about him, and about a lot of Spanish cinema in general. They treat objectionable content in such throwaway fashion. I'd find myself asking "Did that just happen? Did she say her father was molesting her, so she set him on fire in his sleep, cut off his penis and then did a flamenco on the flaming severed member? Did she? Oh cool, another cleavage shot! What was I just thinking about?"
Speaking of cleavage, Penelope Cruz's is almost as good as her superb performance. She's like Gong Li: Make her speak English and she turns into Elizabeth Berkeley. There oughta be a law against both of them (and Gerard Depardieu) acting in English.
Knowing that Cruz's ass was fake kept me from enjoying it. They should sell her fake posterior as a promotional tie to the movie: "Own the ass Penelope Cruz wore in Volver!" It would even have a candy colored bumper sticker that said "VOLVER" across it.
Before anybody gets worked up into a righteous frenzy of indignation against all those horrible, overprivileged parasite hippie / lefties / students (presumably exclusively Harvard, Yale and Princeton) Burns takes to task in his column, I'd like to direct folks to a book called The Spitting Image, by Jerry Liembke of Vietnam Veterans Against The War.
It investigates the whole "hippies spitting on returning vets" urban myth and can't find a single verified incident.
I also feel I should point out that not one Vietnam vet I've ever spoken too, no matter what their political orientation, whether they were radicalized by their experiences or just driven further to the right, claims to have ever had this happen to them.
Maybe Burns meant it metaphorically. Maybe he was referring to how the government, the Army and the World War II vets all royally fucked over the returning 'Nam vets. Even so, I'd like to point out that it was flower power pieties and these same loathsome protesters (many of whom were vets themselves) that largely ended the damn war in the first place.
Anonymous,
I remember reading reviews of Liembke's book when it came out and it struck me as strange, because in elementary school I used to hang out with a kid whose father often spoke about being shot eight(!) times, miraculously surviving, spending a year in underfunded VA Hospitals, only to finally return home and find himself spat upon and called a "babykiller."
Was he making it up? Exaggurating? I can't say (and sadly, I long ago had a falling out with that particular friend, so I can't exactly pick up the phone and verify.)
Of course, the larger point is that this country treats it's veterans disgracefully, and continues to do so even today - no matter how many yellow ribbon bumper stickers you might see on SUVs.
Now what I was trying to get at here is that the boomers running popular culture have been shoving this flower-power nostalgia down our throats and taking credit for being "the generation that stopped a war" for so long now I know I'm not alone in being sick and tired of hearing about it.
(A new low point was that recent, insipid documentary THE US VS JOHN LENNON - which ludicrously seems to imply that not only was Lennon the first and only musician to speak out against the war, but also that he stopped it all by himself.)
There's actually a pretty trenchant scene about this subejct in the film HALF NELSON, but it's been so long since I've seen the movie I can't remember exactly how it plays out and I'd hate to misquote it.
Sean: My family has its share of Vietnam vets, and though none of them specifically told me, "Hippies spat on me while calling me baby-killer," they did report instances of being ostracized, insulted or simply being treated in an insensitive, clueless way after coming home. Even my stepdad's brother, who served but wasn't actually in combat, encountered that sort of reaction; a few months after he got back, a college student neighbor, on finding out he served, joked, "You're not gonna shoot me, are you?" And my mom told me about an incident in the early 70s when a vet friend of hers came to visit her and my dad when they were still married; they took him to one of their gigs (they're jazz musicians) but he left early because a young woman at the bar latched onto him and was smugly interrogating him about his experience, demanding that he defend the war (which he was drafted into!) and asking him very intrusive personal questions, including, "How many people did you kill?" and (yes, indeed) "Did you ever kill any children?"
The point here isn't that Boomer college students don't deserve a generous share of the credit for ending the war (they do) or that Liembke is wrong to assert that the spitting/"baby killer" incident is an urban myth (I suspect he's right about that particular combination of insults, repeated and canonized in the Stallone movie First Blood).
But at the same time, I get the uncomfortable sense that Leimbke's book is sometimes seized on as a blanket refutation of the idea that, through ideological passion or simple ignorance, a lot of people in this country (including some who were involved with, or sympathetic to, the peace movement) made the warriors bear the sins of the war. This sort of thing did, point of fact, happen. It may have been rare and exceptional, and yes, its regularity has been deliberately exaggerated by conservatives trying to discredit war protesters of any era. But it happened, it can't be denied, and it's what the whole pre-Gulf War 1, "support the troops" movement was about initially (though it quickly mutated into a transparent right-wing gambit to stifle legitimate dissent about foreign policy -- i.e., to be against a war, any war, is to insult and demoralize individual soldiers, so keep your trap shut, hippies).
I'm sorry this thread veered so far off topic, but hey, you go where it takes you.
I wouldn't mind seeing a 5 For The Day on film portrayals of Vietnam veterans...accurate and nuanced takes, or the most reductive and ham-handed imaginings of the experience (certainly no shortage of the latter).
I have just seen Volver and am unimpressed. I don't see what all the fuss is about. I think Almodovar would do better not to mix genres so much, as the comedy and drama detract from each other. The camp melodrama and plot implausibilities make it hard to take it seriously.
On a deeper level, I can't agree with Almodovar's sense of humanity in the way he treats the genders. For a more detailed analysis, check out my review.
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