by Odienator
Society says that real men don't eat quiche, and they don't cry. Today's 5 for the Day takes issue with the latter, offering up five movies that are guaranteed to put a lump in the throats of my fellow Y chromosome owners. For the sake of "society," we can christen this piece "Five Movies It's OK for Guys To Cry At " or "Kleenex: It Isn't Just for Porn." So read 'em and weep, and if you're a real man, you'll chime in with your own choices.(Peer pressure…it's fantastic!)?
1.Brian's Song. (1971) "Ernest Hemingway once said 'Every true story ends in death.' Well, this is a true story." So begins perhaps the greatest love story between two straight men ever committed to celluloid. Brian’s Song is a 1971 TV movie starring Billy Dee Williams and James Caan, both one year removed from the movies that would make them legends (Lady Sings the Blues and The Godfather, respectively). Billy Dee plays Gale Sayers and Caan plays the title character , Brian Piccolo. Caan has never been looser or more charming, and you'd be hard pressed to find him generating more chemistry than he has with Williams. It's the 60's and, despite their different races and the fact they're competing for the same position on the Chicago Bears, Brian and Gale become close friends. When Sayers is injured, Brian and his wife are there for him, helping him rehabilitate his wrecked knee. Sayers and his wife are
able to return the favor when Brian falls ill. Since this is a true story, I can reveal that Brian is diagnosed with malignant cancer and dies. This is no disease-movie-of-the-week, though; it’s a devastating and moving 74-minute celebration of a life cut short, superbly written, directed, acted and scored (by Michel Legrand). I dare you to watch Sayers' award acceptance scene, or the leading actors’ final scene together, and not be moved. Just thinking about it hits me like a 2 x 4 to the tear ducts.
2. The Pride of the Yankees. (1942) Even a Red Sox fan can get choked up at Gary Cooper's portrayal of the self-proclaimed luckiest man on the face of the Earth, Lou Gehrig. Sure, it's fictionalized as hell, and sports fans harp on the fact that they used reverse photography to make Coop bat southpaw. But director Sam Wood pushes all the right buttons, capitalizing on Coop's clumsy charm and the way he looks at the lovely Teresa Wright. This is the movie that made me a lifelong Yankees fan--and made me think Ms. Wright was Miss Right. Real life Murderer's Row occupant Babe Ruth, and the House that He Built, show up for verisimilitude, but it's those echoing final words from Mr. Gehrig that do me in every time.
3. Old Yeller (1957). Guys, think about your best friend. You know the guy—the one you can trust with your life, the dude who's there for you through thick and thin, the chap with whom you have had some classic experiences, the bloke who is like a brother to you, the homeboy you can hug with impunity. Can you see him in your mind's eye? Now shoot him in the head with a rifle, and you have some idea what watching Old Yeller is like. The quintessential story of a boy and his dog, Old Yeller is yet another harsh life lesson from that sadistic frozen bastard Walt Disney. Tommy Kirk,
Chuck Connors, Fess Parker, and Dorothy McGuire give great performances, but the heart of this movie goes to the big yellow dog who gives the movie its title and its most traumatic death scene (sorry, Bambi's Mom). Watching it today, I still hope that the ending will be different. Notably name-checked in Stripes and on Friends, Old Yeller is Chinatown for Children. For any guy who ever loved a furry, flea-bitten rascal of a canine, this is the male answer to Beaches.
4. Field of Dreams. (1989) I worked as an usher in a movie theater when this film came out, and every day, without fail, I would see the following occur after the final credits rolled: grown men exiting the theater, their eyes bigger than saucers and redder than Mars, followed by women staring at them with a "What the fuck just happened?" look on their faces. I imagined that the guy had been dragged to the movie by his Costner-obsessed better half, only to be sideswiped by the father issues he may or may not have known he had. Baseball pictures are always about redemption of some sort, which explains the mythic quality of movies like The Natural, but Dreams is more layered than that. It's
about following one's dreams, having someone to support said pursuit, and finding more than you expected once your dream has been realized. Dreams is corny as hell--literally and in the Capra-corny sense--but when Costner says, "It's my father," there nary a dry male eye in the house. I know I'll get in trouble for saying this, but women just don't get this movie in the same way men do; it’s sweet revenge for all the times men cluelessly watched dates bawl over some mushy chick flick.
5. Stand by Me. (1986) One of the better Stephen King adaptations, Stand is a movie that works as a tearjerker if you bring an identifiable sense of nostalgia to it. The first time I saw it, I was 17 and, excepting the wonderfully gross vomit fantasy sequence (this is Stephen King), I was less than enamored of the movie, and certainly not moved by it. When I was 30, I caught it on HBO and saw it through a different prism of life experience. In that 13-year gap, I lucked into friendships with several great guys, some of whom are no longer with us. The exploits of wannabe-writer Gordie (my stand-in) and his pals evoked memories of my own adventures, and when narrator (and computer
illiterate) Richard Dreyfuss informs us of the fates of the characters as their youthful incarnations disappear from the screen I was caught completely off guard. All the memories of the times I had spent with the guys who had passed on flooded into my head and out through my eyes. Everybody needs catharsis sometimes – especially "real men."
Friday, July 14, 2006
5 for the Day: Boys Do Cry
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Good choices all, to which I will add a film I watch every holiday season, It's a Wonderful Life. Damned if it doesn't make me well up each and every time I see it.
Shit, first time I saw ET I was on the brink.
I am such a sap.
There is only one film, and one film only, that belongs on this list for me. The Iron Giant.
I defy you to witness the final flight of the Giant, and that heart exploding whisper "superman", without tearing up like a little baby.
I concur with Field of Dreams. I'd add Emma's death in Terms of Endearment. Also, if I'm in a particularly emotional mood, when Al rises to the occasion and blows Alexander Godunov away in Die Hard.
The Killing Fields. When Dith was removed from the embassy by the Khmers, and in his voiceover he says something about wanting his wife to be safe, tears flowed free. Same thing happened at the very end.
Dan, Wonderful Life and E.T. are the ONLY two movies to make me tear up consistently. I'm kind of a hard ass when it comes to giving movies tears. My wife will be disintegrating over some movie she doesn't even really LIKE, and I'll be sitting there noticing the cinematography or something.
It's the Midwestern stoicism in me.
THAT SAID. I have never seen Stand by Me. I think this makes me unAmerican.
what about "To Kill a Mockingbird" when Scout says: "Hey, Boo!"?
Shit, my eyes are wet just wrting that phrase, goddammit.
Hey don't worry todd; I haven't seen Stand By Me either...or Brian's Song...or Old Yeller...in fact, the only film on odienator's list I've seen is Field of Dreams, and I don't remember it making me cry (but then, I was very young when I saw it on TV and I haven't bothered to return to it since).
There is one film that really made me cry throughout: Akira Kurosawa's Ikiru. Heck, the bodily waterworks started flowing for me when that young writer found Kanji Watanabe hiding in his place and started talking to him---and that was, say, 30 minutes into the film. Afterwards, I'd start tearing up whenever I heard Takashi Shimura's haunting voice. Perhaps my favorite movie of all time, although maybe more for deeply personal more than artistic reasons (although it certainly isn't lacking in art, especially the daring way it's structured).
Whoa, James had practically lifted the words out of my mouth (or fingers).
I feel that I'm more easily moved by animated films than live-action films.
Graveyard of the Fireflies from Studio Ghibli is pretty much unbearable for me to watch now (even though I used to go through the entire film emotionlessly when I was a kid).
Nice post, even if it is a bit stereotypically "Dude-ish" (would this list be different from a gay perspective?). Anyway, I wanted to mention that at the end of "The Royal Tennenbaums", when Ben Stiller says, "I've had a rough year, Dad," and Hackman puts his hand on his shoulder and says, "I know, son," I cry every freakin' time. I'm practically crying right now! I don't know what it is, but it's my best example of what I like about Wes Anderson: he can have a goofy, stylized, mostly "fun" movie that has these disarming moments of extreme emotion that come up and sock you. Bastard.
Todd: Dan, Wonderful Life and E.T. are the ONLY two movies to make me tear up consistently. I'm kind of a hard ass when it comes to giving movies tears.
Both great choices in the waterworks department for people, but not for me. The first time I saw E.T., on opening day at the grand opening of the Loews Meadow Six, I didn't like it at all. To this day, I can't give my heart to E.T., though my opinion of the film has changed 180 degrees. Emotionally, I'm more moved by James' choice, the E.T.-like The Iron Giant.
You wanna talk hard ass, Todd? I cannot stand It's A Wonderful Life. I know, I know. This means I'm going to Hell. "Clarence," says Jimmy Stewart, "uh...send Odie to Hell. Merry Christmas, Harry Potter!"
Mr. Copeland, I had an emotional reaction to the Die Hard scene you cite, but it wasn't tears. I remember jumping out of my chair, like half the guys in the audience, and screaming "YEAH!!!" Emma in Terms does it for me, though not as hard as that scene between Jessica Lange and Charlie Korsmo in Men Don't Leave.
Kenjfuj: Perhaps my favorite movie of all time, although maybe more for deeply personal more than artistic reasons
That's the best reason to love a movie.
A great list. I can't disagree with a single one.
Now I prepare for slings and arrows.
The first time I saw For Love Of The Game, I desperately wanted it to be a great movie. A fitting bookend to Costner's "baseball trilogy". Needless to say I was disappointed. I didn't think it was a bad movie. It just wasn't what it was supposed to be.
Maybe it was Sam Raimi. He's a great director but when he gets into the wrong arena things just don't click.
Anyway, it was on cable the other day and I watched it again.
Maybe it's because I'm now approaching Billy Chapel's age but as he is desperately trying to close out that perfect game, I found myself welling up.
I doubt the movie has gotten better with time. Maybe it's just my perspective that's changed.
Still not a great movie. But it's good enough.
Dead Man Walking for me. He's a despicable character, sure--and less so than in the book; the movie combined killers and eliminated some of the more heinous crimes--but there's just something in that true "tough love" Sister Helen has that gets me every time. Never mind Robbins raising him up to make use of that ridiculous Christ imagery (ridiculous because it's ham-handed and that's not what they do in an execution chamber anyway); it's all Helen--knowing what he did, accepting him for it anyway, urging him to admit his crimes and still holding out hope for his redemption.
Stand by Me is a great choice, and one I'd leave on the list. Another King adapation (one of the few good ones): Shawshank Redemption--starts with the store job, on to the rock with no business in that field, and proceeds to Zijuatanejo. (Say it.) Ends with the manly hug. And of course Brooks' time out does it for me too.
Leaving Las Vegas is another one. The smiling cruelty at the hotel, after the broken glass/"prickly pear" scene, makes my throaten tighten up a bit and from then on it just intensifies. By the end it's like a waterworks home ru There's so much despair in that film--I don't agree with all the characters' choices, but then I'm not required to, either.
Great idea for a Five, Odie.
The Elephant Man.
Even my 13-year old says that it's OK for any guy to cry watching that.
And speaking of Lynch, how about THE STRAIGHT STORY?
BIG FISH - when Billy Crudup carries Albert Finney down to his "past" at the end.
In THE FISHER KING, when Robin Williams turns around at the end, looks at Amanda Plummer and says, "Are you still my girl?"
And in the improbable category, when Jack Black finally "sees" the little girl in the burn ward in SHALLOW HAL reduces me to a mess every time. Damn you Peter and Bobby Farrelly!!!
tuwa: I'm in sync with you on Shawshank, one of my favorite endings. Unfortunately, I can't get with you on Leaving Las Vegas, but I understand about Dead Man Walking.
griftdrift: Maybe it's because I'm now approaching Billy Chapel's age but as he is desperately trying to close out that perfect game, I found myself welling up.
Interesting choice. This isn't about a movie's greatness, but about how it affected a person. With that said, may I substitute a different baseball "over the hill" moment? In The Rookie, the scene where Dennis Quaid finds out he's been called up always gets me. I mean, I knew it was coming, but Quaid does some of the best acting I've ever seen him do in that scene. Along with Far From Heaven, this guy got robbed of Oscar nods.
Great Swifty, Graveyard of the Fireflies is the saddest animated movie I have ever seen.
Kevbo: Despite my numerous problems with TKAM, I always got a little misty when they told Scout "Stand up, your father's passing."
Steve: Nice post, even if it is a bit stereotypically "Dude-ish"
That was the entire point, actually. If I hadn't established that "restriction," if you will, I might have put on some of the following things that also made me teary eyed:
1. The entire funeral scene of Douglas Sirk's Imitation of Life. (This may be the hardest I've ever cried at any movie.)
2. Dora's bus ride (the last scene) of Walter Salles' Central Station.
3. The Bicycle Thief
(would this list be different from a gay perspective?).
They didn't sprinkle enough gay seasoning in my mold before they dropped it, broke me, and sent my glued-together body to Earth. So anyone who's properly seasoned wanna chime in on that question?
Speaking of animated films, the original version of Charlotte's Web. Also, I'm sure that I'm probably alone here, but I cried at the Robert Downey Jr. comedy Heart and Souls, and Spielberg's A.I.
All three for basically the same reason.
You had a gay perspective already.
1. The Great Santini Even more than the end, it was the death of Toomer that made me miserable and had me sobbing for weeks.
2. Where the Red Fern Grows It's not Old Yeller, but with two dogs you double the heartbreak, and the fact that the second dog dies from loneliness after the first one just adds to the heartbreak.
3. Mr. Roberts Out titular hero has big unfulfilled dreams, and never realizes how important he already is in this great american play. I think of the naval Mr. Roberts as a counterpart to the civilian George Bailey.
4. Going in Style It's been a long time since I've seen it, but at the time it had me bawling.
5. Goodbye, Mr. Chips The original is still the best. Take that Mr. Holland!
Another film I had a tearful reaction to: the ending of Alexander Payne's About Schmidt: after Warren Schmidt feels despair at his perceived wastefulness of his life, he opens up Ndugu's letter, reads it, and starts to cry. And damned if I didn't cry too. Actually, About Schmidt was the film that inspired me to finally watch Ikiru.
Someone also already mentioned E.T.. Man, it's been a while since I saw that film! But I remember the ending getting to me every time as a young kid---even the closing spaceship rainbow.
Tuwa, I'm a little offended at your remark.
Jeff, I can't tell if you're being serious. Are you offended? If so, why?
Because I don't consider my love of those three movies I mentioned to be 'gay', at least in the pejorative sense.
Unless you weren't responding to my posting, perhaps.
Kenjfuj: Another film I had a tearful reaction to: the ending of Alexander Payne's About Schmidt
Great last shot, kenjfuj! I thought Nicholson really sold that last scene. It's the kind of catharsis I'm talking about in this post.
Jeff, Tuwa had directed that comment to me, not you. I think it ties back to my response to the "stereotypically dude-ish" comment. What I got from Tuwa's comment was that the movies I chose can be enjoyed (and wept at) by men of any persuasion.
Jeff: Unless you weren't responding to my posting, perhaps.
He was responding to mine, Jeff, and with no malice intended I am sure.
I wrote this piece for a reason--to challenge the notion that it's a "societal no-no" for guys to get choked up at movies. I don't want this to turn into a barfight. I know we all respect each other here at the House.
Without consciously intending to, Odie's opened up a can of worms here. But that's not a bad thing. Fact is, he and I had a pretty intense back-and-forth while he was working on this piece about the underlying assumption that men aren't comfortably crying at movies, or crying generally. I think men's willingness to openly express emotion in public varies greatly depending on which man you're talking about; I know heterosexual men who are much more deeply in touch with their emotions than I am, and gay men who are more stoic than "Deer Hunter" characters. I do agree, though, that there's a societal prohibition -- even now, post Dr. Phil -- against men crying at movies, that it's somehow interpreted as a sign of weakness or some such shit. That's why there is still a distinction drawn between so-called "chick flicks" and so-called "male weepies." It's a false, arbitrary, and in many ways limiting distinction, one that actually hampers the evolvement of the species, in my opinion, but it's an unfortunate fact, and in his own lighthearted way, I think Odie addresses it in this post.
For whatever that's worth.
Also, for what it's worth, I think this list might be slightly different from a gay perspective or a female perspective, but it's hard to know, because as I keep saying, your mileage may vary. I'm probably not a good control subject, because I cry at the drop of a hat, and I never know what movie's going to do it for me. Tear-inducers include "Close Encounters," "The Best Years of Our Lives," "Northfork," "Son Frere," "Moulin Rouge," "Terms of Endearment" and "On the Waterfront." I've also unleashed the waterworks at "Hero," "The Passion of the Christ," "Toy Story 2," and of all things, "The Incredibles." So there's no telling with me. I suspect the same is true for everybody else. This stuff is so personal it's tough to hang labels on it.
Yes, I was responding to odienator's comment. No, I didn't mean anything pejorative by it.
We were already on the subject of a) stereotypes and gender roles and b) what gay men like. My comment was strictly factual and amused, and meant to point out c) stereotypes of gay men, that is, an incorrect assumption based on the content of posts here that no gay man had voiced his opinion on odienator's list.
I'm not into barfights either--or, for that matter, fights outside of bars or bars without the fights--so if it's all the same, I'm going to bow out of this conversation now.
My mistake, and far be it for me to make anyone feel like they should bow out of any conversation, so please don't feel obligated.
MZS:Fact is, he and I had a pretty intense back-and-forth while he was working on this piece
And I should have listened to you. I'm hard-headed. My mother was right.
Best Years of Our Lives has 3 powerful scenes that get me every time - the first two coming home scenes, and Dana Andrews' father reading his citation.
I feel like I'm eavesdropping on this male bull session--and it's great. I had a huge rush of nostalgia at seeing Brian's Song in Odie''s #1 spot. I distinctly remember my brother and my father weeping when we watched it. Back in 1971, that experience made quite an impression on me. My father also cried every year at the end of Scrooge. It was Alstair Sim's portrayal of the exuberence Scrooge feels that the spirits had done it in one night and he hadn't missed it, it wasn't' over, that got to my father. Now, many years later, I understand why.
Everytime a bell rings, Odie goes to hell.
Thatta boy Clarence!
A fella has to be pretty low to diss George Bailey. 1)It's A Wonderful Life breeds tears of redemption. It's the finest example of Capra Magic, in my opinion.
And dittos with: Kenji on 2)Ikiru. Takashi Shimura has a face for humanity.
Wagstaff and I shed tears on 3)The Great Santini together.
I'll have to officially put 4)The Bicycle Thief. You can't distill pathos any further. Umberto D tried, but went a little too far.
And I'd be lying if 5)Old Yeller wasn't on the list.
Ross, I liked your choice of A Straight Story, perhaps my favorite Lynch movies. Also, it's hard not to think of Best Year's of Our Lives when thinking about weepers.
Since I haven't added a new title to the discussion, let me add Dumbo. Who can forget the General in 1941 sobbing to the lullaby? I know how he feels.
M. A., I felt like an eavesdropper too--I'm a supposedly stoic Midwestern female and always snivel at four of the five movies mentioned. In fact, I haven't been able to watch "Old Yeller" without hysterics since I was a kid.
Another one that always gets me is the scene in "The Shootist" where the Duke says farewell to Lauren Bacall.
Jeffrey: Everytime a bell rings, Odie goes to hell.
(Cut to everyone on this blog ringing bells)
Anonymous: Another one that always gets me is the scene in "The Shootist" where the Duke says farewell to Lauren Bacall.
I'll see your Shootist, and raise you one Shane.
MZS: "and of all things, "The Incredibles." "
I second that emotion, Matt. Brad Bird must be my inner child made flesh and given talent.
For me it's about halfway through the "Hundred Mile Dash" sequence, when Mr Incredible's son learns he can run on water. The look on his face, and his little laugh, and the music just sets my eyes to burning.
I can't think of a more joyful few seconds in any recent film.
James: Yeah, that's a great moment. My favorites, though, are the scene where Mr. Incredible confesses to Mrs. Incredible, "I'm not strong enough," and that heartbreaking image of Mr. Incredible, trapped by Syndrome, suspended in that electric torture device in what amounts to a crucifixion. Both of Bird's films attain depths of feeling not dared by any other contemporary animated movies; at their best, they get close to that stinging purity of feeling attained by Disney films of the 40s -- the movies that seared themselves into your memory and never faded.
It looks like dogs and dads are surefire ways to make men cry at the movies. I don’t remember the details, but in Disney’s Follow Me, Boys, there is an alcoholic dad that always made me very sad.
I made fun of Field of Dreams when it first came out, but I cried when I saw it last year.
I’ll ditto what’s been said about The Straight Story. The entire film from beginning to end strikes a tone that makes me cry with a wimpering smile on my face.
Breaker Morant is another great one, and when it comes to getting emotional during a movie, I always have to mention Rossellini’s Paisan, which makes me cry nine different ways.
It is 'Gallipoli' for me.
Wagstaff: It looks like dogs and dads are surefire ways to make men cry at the movies.
And sports players either cut down in their prime or allowed to live their dreams. (Hoop Dreams is my quintessential example of this.) If they make a movie about a sports playing dad with an idolizing son and a dying dog, men will spontaneously combust. :)
One movie that I know at least two of my friends bawled over, and I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned it yet, was Rudy. They called me a heartless bastard because I thought the coach should never have put Rudy in the game. "But he SUCKS, guys!" I said, which admittedly is not a defense for a movie like this. Go ahead, Clarence, ring another bell...
MZS:that heartbreaking image of Mr. Incredible, trapped by Syndrome, suspended in that electric torture device in what amounts to a crucifixion.
Especially after the scene where he thinks his family is gone. If I remember correctly, Bird has a long shot of him hanging there on the left side of the frame, and his body kind of goes limp.
I've never actually cried at a movie (I don't say that as a point of pride; it actually kind of makes me feel like there's something wrong with me), but the one that brought me the closest was The Burmese Harp, a Japanese anti-war film from 1956. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it (I'm honestly not sure how well-known it is), but suffice it to say I was an emotional wreck for the last 10-15 minutes. And it's not a tragic-death type of ending, either. Just thinking about it now..."Let's go back to Japan together!"...oh man...
I don't know how well known it is, but Lukas Moodysson's Lilja 4-Ever left me an emotional wreck. I later came to know that more seasoned film critics (including Anthony Lane) felt the same! Although I am not sure if it that was the "right" response to the movie, the one that Moodysson wanted. Perhaps if I see it again I will feel more anger than sorrow...
shedding tears for a movie somehow always seems to me an act of morally dubious nature. Often it leads to self-congratulatory pats on the back for being "ohh so sensitive" and exercises in shirking intellectual responsibility!
Nicanor - Good call on "Gallipoli". That was another one that got me.
Kyle: Nicanor - Good call on "Gallipoli".
I third that Gallipoli notion.
alok:shedding tears for a movie somehow always seems to me an act of morally dubious nature.
Whew. And I thought I was going to Hell for all that pre-marital sex and blasphemy. My morally dubious weeping damned me! With that known, now I can sin with impunity! :)
If we wanna move past the simple "made me cry" and into the "fucked me up, perhaps for good" level, I'd like to nominate a couple of films. First, Michael Tolkin's The Rapture, which had me in a quivering heap from the moment in the desert when Mimi Rogers pulled her gun outta its holster. Second, CT Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc. I have only seen the movie once, up on the big old theatre screen, but it left me effectively devastated for days afterwards. I own the Criterion disc, but haven't had the nerve to pop it into the ol' dvd player for fear of what it'll do to me.
I'm not a religious man, but these two really did me in.
Dan: If we wanna move past the simple "made me cry" and into the "fucked me up, perhaps for good" level
On that level, I nominate 1983's Jane Alexander movie Testament. We watched it on VHS in my 12th grade psychology class, and the entire class was totally devastated. It got to me so much that I haven't watched it since. That was 20 years ago.
Dan, Joan of Arc is a great choice, but I'm afraid The Rapture left me cold. I do give it credit for riding its convictions right to the bitter end, and I can see how it could jack a person up real good too.
Latest catch-in-the-throat: Watching the end of ERIN BROCKOVICH recently on TNT, where Erin goes out to tell Marg Helgenberg's character that she'll be getting millions from the contaminated water case. Her reaction got to me.
And, call me a square, but every time Matt Damon morphs into the old man in the Normandy cemetery at the end of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, I just lose it.
dan jardine wrote:
Michael Tolkin's The Rapture, which had me in a quivering heap from the moment in the desert when Mimi Rogers pulled her gun outta its holster.
Fascinating choice. It is indeed a very moving, powerful film, and I've vivid memories of once showing it to a female friend and her reaction was the same as yours up until the end credits rolled.
I watched Heat again yesterday and teared up a bit at the moment that De Niro's character chooses to run, leaving Amy Brenneman staring at him out of the car window, totally lost. The look on Brenneman's face is absolutely devastating.
FIELD OF DREAMS will always choke me up. That AMC ad last summer about fantasy baseball, while hilarious, did not make me cry, but most every other promo that has the "You wanna have a catch?" line will get to me.
A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT has a lot of great moments of joy and sadness alike, much like the source novella. And Redford was smart enough to use a lot of it verbatim for the narration so when in the end you hear him say "I am haunted by waters" it cuts deep. It doesn't hurt that I am also drawn to and frightened by rivers much like MacLean, or Carver, or plenty of writers more eloquent than me.
Hard to ignore IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE or TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. "Stand up, Scout; you're father's passing." Ouch.
I cry pretty easy, I think, and watching stupid ass FORREST GUMP last night on tv, I got choked up a few times against my better judgement. "Don't you EVER call him stupid!" I know, I know. "Is he smart? Or is he..." I know, right?
But the one line I hope will always slay me is from THE THIN RED LINE: "You're a magician to me." That whole scene in the empty, broken & bombed house with the camera following Witt through the rooms is, for me, the high point of the film.
RWK: But the one line I hope will always slay me is from THE THIN RED LINE: "You're a magician to me."
You've come to the right place if you want to make comments on Malick!
I completely forgot about A River Runs Through It. That movie always makes me think about my relationship with one of my brothers.
You've come to the right place if you want to make comments on Malick!
Yeah, I've been reading for a while cuz of that Voice article "acknowledging the cult" and making jabs at MZS's (rightly) reverential treatment of NEW WORLD. I just haven't commented much...but I do dig yr 5's. Also, the lost recaps/reviews got me to borrow season 1 and I got hooked on that b/c of you guys. Can't wait for season 3.
In the Pixar theme, the ending of Monsters Inc., when Sully has to bring the little girl back gets me every damn time. And then the surprise at the end, when he gets to go back to her? Man, it's getting me now.
The oddest for me is the "Something There" song in Disney's Beauty & the Beast, where the Beast and Belle have a snowball fight. I have no idea why that marriage of image and music tears me up, but it does.
Y'all've already mentioned the ones that leap to mind: especially Ikiru and The Iron Giant (both of which I can barely even think about with getting all verklempt), but also The Straight Story and Grave of the Fireflies.
As the commenter most likely to mention Sam Peckinpah, I should point out that Ride The High Country (well, the end) is another manly tearjerker on several levels, as the death of a great character is also the death of a father figure (based on Peckinpah's own father) and, on a more meta level, the death of the Western unambiguously-moral guy (and Peckinpah's West never again saw the likes of a guy like Steve Judd). The way the scene is shot is masterful, too. When the camera follows his gaze up into the mountains as Judd slides out of frame, well, my waterworks start working overtime.
I get choked up at the end of movies like L'Atalante, Eternal Sunshine, and The New World, too, but that's a different kind of choked up. I freely admit that fatherhood has turned me into (or allowed me to be) a much more emotional sap than I used to be.
Hayden: I freely admit that fatherhood has turned me into (or allowed me to be) a much more emotional sap than I used to be.
Does this mean you're wrapped around the finger of a daughter? And Eternal Sunshine is a nice pick.
RWK: Yeah, I've been reading for a while cuz of that Voice article "acknowledging the cult" and making jabs at MZS's (rightly) reverential treatment of NEW WORLD.
Then you've been here long enough to know I'm the lone dissenter here, the Voldemort of The New World cult: He Who Farts In Church.
I just haven't commented much...but I do dig yr 5's.
Thanks. I dig that you dig them. Ya dig?
Runaway Train always gets to me, in theaters or on video, to the point where it's dangerous to see it with the wrong person, but I can't imagine watching it alone. Maybe the most macho of the male weepies I've seen. Like Ikiru, it's exultant in (and because of) tragedy.
Does this mean you're wrapped around the finger of a daughter? And Eternal Sunshine is a nice pick.
A son, but he's still a toddler, and I've completely lost whatever masculine remove I used to have from my "weep like a baby" trigger.
And thanks!
L'Atalante! Great choice. Great film.
"quivering heap" reactions such as watching Mimi Rogers in the desert in THE RAPTURE...
The Dalai Lama's vision of the dead monks in KUNDUN got me started suddenly and violently.
I had a delayed reaction to MULLHOLLAND DR. It wasn't until I was driving home that I began to process the palpable sadness of the suicide. I had to pull over and compose myself.
Vincent D'Onofrio's incapability to accept the love of a good woman in THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD gives a good, old-fashioned cry.
The rest are mostly the father-son themed films referenced by others.
Great article Odie! You really got me with "Capra-corny".
I have to contribute my two cents as per the gay perspective, am I the only one? No matter.
Tales of gay relationships almost always end with an "It isn't meant to be" secenario. Aware of this, I was reluctant to watch Brokeback Mountain.
As we can intensely relate to gay characters, I suspect this film holds much more meaning to us guys guys than the straight ones.
Another film about love that isn't meant to be is Maurice, a British film I think. I saw it years ago on USA Night Flight. I wasn't expecting it, it sweetly broke my heart.
But the first film that came to my mind as I read Odie's article is Wings, an early silent film. 1929 I believe. Tearjerker for guys of any persuasion
The movie that always gets me is The Best Years of Our Lives, particularly the bedtime scene where Homer removes his artificial hands in the presence of his would-be lady friend, Wilma, and she responds with complete acceptance and enveloping love. As Sean Burns has noted, apocalyptic sadness rarely registers with me, but simple acts of compassion get me every time.
Very interesting topic, shame I'm so abominably late to it (I've been gone from here, indeed the net proper, that none of you may remember me, but this would serve as a sufficient reintroduction).
Matt wrote, "apocalyptic sadness rarely registers with me, but simple acts of compassion get me every time." Yeah, I can relate to that; one of my all-time favorites, "Papillon" (1973) is full of these small, tender grace notes between the unlikely allies of the title character (Steve McQueen) and Dega (Dustin Hoffman). (Well, I said "full of" these notes, but they're actually few and far between; just in that for a movie of this length, their relationship, really the only one in the movie, is painted in such terse colors ± they really have VERY little onscreen time together — that even a small gesture feels huge. When they finally hug goodbye at the end, it's a heartbreaker, yet also feels as if nothing else would make sense; if you haven't seen this I won't bother with the details).
Now that I think of it, Hoffman's inadvertant farewell to Jon Voight at the end of "Midnight Cowboy" is also wrenching, although I never cried at that one, more felt a kind of consuming worry, bordering on horror, about what's going to happen to Joe Buck now.
The Great Swifty wrote that he's more easily moved by animated films, and I thoroughly understand that, since it's a reaction I've noticed in myself; I think it might have something to do with the sheer nakedness of the emotions portrayed, the lack of actorly affect that's possible to creep in and spoil the mood (of course the animated characters have perfect chemistry! they're drawn that way. Whereas in half or more of your characteristic "don't die on me buddy!" scenes, I at least too often wonder if the actors have even met before that scene).
Even animated pictures I didn't much like altogether, e.g. "Tarzan," managed to grab me in the throat here or there (Tarzan losing his ape mommy and/or the song sequence that precedes or follows it, damned if I remember). But the absolute champ, even if it is basically a "Lion King" retread, is "Brother Bear." I was a complete wreck the first time I saw this, but now a couple years later I seem to have pared it down to five teary moments instead of the prior eight. It also was able to make me laugh at the same time I was crying, which I think is a first for me. (Or maybe, as perhaps with "Tarzan," I just have some Mary Hart-like knee-jerk reaction to the wailing of Phil Collins?)
"Toy Story 2" was mentioned, but it was the first one that really socked me in the heart, especially the scene in which Buzz sees himself as a TV commercial and tries to prove to himself he can actually fly. I remain a bit puzzled by the lyrics Randy Newman scored the scene with, but it works nonetheless.
One of my favorite movies as an adolescent was John Boorman's "Excalibur" (1981), and I'm an intermittent wreck throughout the final half hour, beginning actually with King Arthur's reconciliation with Guenevere, and his wistful reading of the line, thinking back of the love they once shared, "It is a dream I have." (Why hasn't Nigel Terry, who played Arthur, had more of a career? Maybe he prefers the English stage, but the few movies he seems to get have him playing things like the lurid rapist in "Christopher Columbus: The Discovery.")
The Japanese know how to ladle on sentiment like nobody's business, at least at the story level; not all their directors have the proper combination of skill and a degree of remove. The last ten minutes of Kinji fukasaku's "The fall Guy" are exemplary in this regard, because this isn't the kind of story you've really seen told in a Japanese movie before (or anywhere really), and you can't quite be sure where it's going. If you must know, I cracked at the line "You look ... so cool." And they're not at all done with us yet. I won't tell you what does happen, but I didn't feel let down.
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